#69806: "Allow player to choose order of end-of-round effects"
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Penerangan yang terperinci
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• Sila salin/tampal mesej masalah yang anda dapat lihat di skrin, jika ada.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Tolong jelaskan apa yang anda ingin buat, apa yang telah anda buat dan apa yang telah terjadi
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Apa yang dipaparkan pada skrin apabila anda disekat (Skrin kosong? Antara muka permainan? Mesej ralat?)
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Bahagian peraturan yang mana tidak dihormati oleh penyesuaian BGA
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Adakah kelanggaran peraturan boleh dilihat di ulangan permainan? Jikanya ya, pada langkah berapa?
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Apakan tindakan yang anda mahu lakukan?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Apa yang anda cuba lakukan untuk mencetuskan tindakan permainan ini?
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan ini (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Pada peringkat mana semasa permainan , masalah itu berlaku (apakah arahan semasa permainan tersebut)?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan tindakan permainan (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Tolong jelaskan masalah pemaparan. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
According to the rules of Seasons, a player should be able to choose the order of end-of-round effects.
• Apakah browser anda?
Mozilla v5
Laporan masa lalu
Still, you can never have a hard-coded order which will work for all cases, there will always be corner cases, for example:
- A player may want to have fewer crystals (so intentionally triggering Wondrous Chest at 3 energies, before Heart of Argos or after Fairy Monolith) to kill an opponent Titus.
- A player may want to activate Horn of Plenty without energies in their reserve (before using Beggar's Horn or Heart of Argos) to have more energies the next turn
- For the two random effects Dial of Colof and Carnivora Strombosea, the player may decide one based on the outcome of the other
So ideally the player should be able to choose explicitly in which order effects happen.
Unfortunately, a naive implementation would slow down the game (especially turn-based games) if automatic effects such as Wondrous Chest or Titus Deepgaze would no longer be automatic. So the game should still do these automatic effects without player interaction if the order doesn't matter (determining whether the order matters may be non-trivial)
- Dial of Colof
- Damned Soul of Onys
- Ethiel's Fountain
- Carnivora Strombosea
- Beggar's Horn
- Heart of Argos
- Titus Deepgaze
- Wondrous Chest
- Mesodae’s Lantern
- Io's transmuter
- Fairy Monolith
- Chalice of eternity
- Horn of Plenty
but where we will restart the list whenever an effect actually triggers. So the fact that Horn of Plenty is last in thi list doesn't mean that no further effects are possible: whenever Horn of Plenty triggers, then we'll recheck the list from the beginning.
The general principle remains that the player retains the choice between performing these actions manually or performing them automatically. Seasons is a notable exception because it seems to me that this is one of the first games implemented on BGA, if not the first. In my opinion, there is no longer any reason to retain this exception, as soon as a developer recognizes the need for necessary changes.
It should already be noted that automatism is of much less interest now that the end-round effects are solved by player in the order of the turn and no longer card by card as before. In addition, some end-of-turn effects require player intervention anyway, for example to choose an effect, or the type of energy received.
However, when there is only one end-of-turn effect, and no choice is required, the player’s intervention is not useful.
Fiercely in favour of strict application of the rules, I would add that it would be useful, in case of manual selection of cards with end-of-turn effects, to be able to differentiate the achievable effects from the inoperative effects by a color code. This in order to be able to choose more easily to activate inoperative effects (but which could become achievable during the end-of-turn of the player) because deemed undesirable at this time of the game.
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- ID meja yang lain / gerakkan ID
- Adakah F5 meyelesaikan masalah ity?
- Adapah masalah itu berlaku beberapa kali? Selalu? Sekali-sekala?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
