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#67850: "Allow players to quit a game if a time joker is used"

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Jul 13 th 2022 10:41 • Jellby • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

When someone sets up or joins a table, they do it with some expectations about when the game will be played and how long it will last. A time joker being used at the table means the expectations may be disrupted. It's like changing the rules mid-game, players should have the possibility of leaving the table with no consequences.

Nothing against time jokers per se, I've used them myself, it's just that other players should not be forced to "accept" it.

Aug 30 th 2023 14:22 • nccc • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

this will be abused if added, apparently.

Apr 7 th 2024 00:33 • nik592 • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

How? No one else can force someone to use a time joker. And the fact that time jokers are a relatively rare occurrence (I think I've seen one used in my 18 months on BGA), I can't see it as a viable strategy to get out of games you're otherwise losing (which is the only abuse of it I can see).

Apr 22 nd 2024 18:26 • Phoxtrot • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

I don't know about that but you probably shouldn't lose karma if you are out of time on your first round after someone comes back from a joker.

I think that when someone uses a joker, everyone should have a few extra days for their first move after the return. Especially if it's a fast paced turn based game.

The idea is that when you join a game, you know how reasonably long it is going to be and you commit for that but the joker is outside of reasonable expectations.

Jul 10 th 2024 04:09 • DrRockenheimer • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

Don't agree with this ... BGA does not need any new loopholes to allow strategic quitting that ruins games. Maybe allow some extra time for everybody at a table in particularly fast paced games when one player uses a time joker, but no no no ... allowing quitting in that case is quite a bad idea. Flexibility about schedules is an essential part of the turn-based implementation in BGA; use your own joker if games last past your hoped-for conclusion.

Sep 1 st 2024 16:26 • sharkf1n • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

I agree with DrRockenheimer, and actually, if it was my decision. I would get rid of the time joker feature all together.
If you entered a game and something unforeseen happed. The worst case is you get a penalty when the rest of the players decide to skip your turn. It has happed to me before and trust me. It’s NOT life ending ;-). I am back to 100% again.
Yes it sucks for the rest of the players when it happens. But no more than a time joker and its impacts to the rest of the players. Hence just getting rid of the time joker.

Oct 2 nd 2024 12:29 • Terrafire • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

This will definitely be abused if implemented. "Oh, I'm not in first place, I might as well leave the game." And then once one person leaves, the rest will leave too.

Alternatively, someone in last place might use a joker, hoping other players will leave, thus invalidating the game.

Dec 28 th 2024 13:21 • VikingKing • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

I totally agree with this. I do not think it is fair for players to be forced to accept a time joker, since the player themselves could have something preventing them to play a game which would be extended in time with the use of a time joker, and if more than one player use a time joker then it really isn't fair to expect people to finish a game which takes so much longer than expected. There is a reason why we set up games with a specific amount of turns a day, that reason is kind of pointless if a time joker is used.

I suggest either you are allowed to leave a game with a time joker with no penalty, or that time jokers are not allowed to be used on games where there is expected 4 or more turns in a day. Time jokers should then only be used on games, where it is expected the game will be played slow anyway. After all if you know you have something in your future which prevent you from playing 3 to 4 days, should you really be joining a game which expects you to finish in that time period?

Oct 8 th 2025 15:22 • nik592 • Cadangan ini belum dianalisa oleh pemaju:

I am curious as to how those who think this would be abused think it would be. For Player A to quit, Player B needs to use their time joker. Short of Player A and B knowing each other, and Player B being willing to use a time joker just so Player A can quit because Player C is winning right now, how can Player A use this functionality for strategic quitting?

If Players A and B know each other and Player B is happy to do favours to help Player A strategically do anything, I feel like this is almost the least of what they can do for Player A.

OK, sure if Player A and B don't know each other and Player A happens to see Player B use their time joker, yes, they can choose that moment to strategically quit that specific game. But how often would this come up among strangers? Do others see time jokers being used a lot more frequently than has been my experience (I think maybe 3 times in about 3 years on BGA now)?

And how is this different to Player A noticing Player B is now over time and choosing to boot Player B just to avoid a loss? I realise being over time is a different consideration for many who considering timing to be part of "the rules" and losing on timing to be just as valid as losing by playing it out. But there's also lots of people who maintain they were booted just so another player could avoid a loss - is this not also strategic quitting, but yet a necessary evil to allow players to get out of games where a player has just vanished?

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