#31816: "Non elimination tournaments results:tiebreaks should be based on head-to-head results where possible"
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Penerangan yang terperinci
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• Sila salin/tampal mesej masalah yang anda dapat lihat di skrin, jika ada.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Tolong jelaskan apa yang anda ingin buat, apa yang telah anda buat dan apa yang telah terjadi
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Apa yang dipaparkan pada skrin apabila anda disekat (Skrin kosong? Antara muka permainan? Mesej ralat?)
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Bahagian peraturan yang mana tidak dihormati oleh penyesuaian BGA
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Adakah kelanggaran peraturan boleh dilihat di ulangan permainan? Jikanya ya, pada langkah berapa?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Apakan tindakan yang anda mahu lakukan?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Apa yang anda cuba lakukan untuk mencetuskan tindakan permainan ini?
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan ini (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Pada peringkat mana semasa permainan , masalah itu berlaku (apakah arahan semasa permainan tersebut)?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan tindakan permainan (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Tolong jelaskan masalah pemaparan. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v87
Laporan masa lalu
After head-to-head there should be a penalty to losses that were timeout rather than completed. Whoever has less timeout loss wins breaker.
Final breaker should be score difference, as currently implemented, but have any players that lost on timeout highly penalized because it could be considered as "cheating" to optimize the score difference by losing by only 1 instead of by 20 for example.
1. Total points (obviously)
2. Tie-breaker 1: Buchholz -- "the sum of the raw scores of the opponents played is used to break ties." -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchholz_system
3. Tie-breaker 2: Average ELO of opponents
A lot of threads suggest a final tie-breaker of "age of account" exists, and, yeah, I suppose there has to be _something_ when it's "top 4 advance" as in boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=513620
I did the math on my current in progress step of that tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=520423#stage_display), though, and it does not as of right now (step 2 is complete, step 3 is partially complete) follow the algorithm above. The players tied at 2 points and 1 point, as of right now, are not ordered in the ranks by their Buchholz tie-breaker score. I have not checked average ELO to see if that is actually applied first, which would be an odd choice.
I suppose it is possible that tie-breakers are only recalculated at the end of a step, at the matchmaking stage, and the order of players will be updated.
It would be nice if BGG would just publish somewhere what the procedure is. I don't care what they do, but just... write it down... to put an end to all the speculating? Include the tie-breaker points in the stats table with a breakdown of where they came from, or something. Oh, well.
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- Adakah F5 meyelesaikan masalah ity?
- Adapah masalah itu berlaku beberapa kali? Selalu? Sekali-sekala?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
