#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
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Penerangan yang terperinci
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• Sila salin/tampal mesej masalah yang anda dapat lihat di skrin, jika ada.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Tolong jelaskan apa yang anda ingin buat, apa yang telah anda buat dan apa yang telah terjadi
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Apa yang dipaparkan pada skrin apabila anda disekat (Skrin kosong? Antara muka permainan? Mesej ralat?)
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Bahagian peraturan yang mana tidak dihormati oleh penyesuaian BGA
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Adakah kelanggaran peraturan boleh dilihat di ulangan permainan? Jikanya ya, pada langkah berapa?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Apakan tindakan yang anda mahu lakukan?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Apa yang anda cuba lakukan untuk mencetuskan tindakan permainan ini?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan ini (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Pada peringkat mana semasa permainan , masalah itu berlaku (apakah arahan semasa permainan tersebut)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan tindakan permainan (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong jelaskan masalah pemaparan. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
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• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v126
Laporan masa lalu
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
This bug appears in _every_ game. The higher the ELO of players, the more critical it becomes.
Tambah sesuatu untuk laporan ini
- ID meja yang lain / gerakkan ID
- Adakah F5 meyelesaikan masalah ity?
- Adapah masalah itu berlaku beberapa kali? Selalu? Sekali-sekala?
- Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
