#12256: "ELO calculation: Joint placements results. "
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Jika ya, sila nyatakan untuk laporan ini. Laporan dengan undian yang paling diberikan PRIORITI!
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Penerangan yang terperinci
• Sila salin/tampal mesej masalah yang anda dapat lihat di skrin, jika ada.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Tolong jelaskan apa yang anda ingin buat, apa yang telah anda buat dan apa yang telah terjadi
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Apa yang dipaparkan pada skrin apabila anda disekat (Skrin kosong? Antara muka permainan? Mesej ralat?)
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Bahagian peraturan yang mana tidak dihormati oleh penyesuaian BGA
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Adakah kelanggaran peraturan boleh dilihat di ulangan permainan? Jikanya ya, pada langkah berapa?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Apakan tindakan yang anda mahu lakukan?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa yang anda cuba lakukan untuk mencetuskan tindakan permainan ini?
• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan ini (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Pada peringkat mana semasa permainan , masalah itu berlaku (apakah arahan semasa permainan tersebut)?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apa yang berlaku apabila anda cuba melakukan tindakan permainan (mesej ralat, mesej bar status permainan, ...)?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong jelaskan masalah pemaparan. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong salin/lekat teks yang dipaparkan dalam bahasa inggeris dan bukannya bahasa anda. Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Adakah teks ini tersedia dalam sistem terjemahan ? Jika ya, adakah ia diterjemahkan selama lebih daripada 24 jam?
• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
• Tolong jelaskan cadangan anda dengan tepat dan ringkas supaya semudah mungkin untuk memahami apa yang anda maksudkan.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Apakah browser anda?
Google Chrome v73
Laporan masa lalu
the same is true for Lewis & Clark where every loser comes joint 2nd.
Basically, independent of the game outcome, you have a tie with all players in human team, and your score will be adjusted on a value based on ELO difference.
If you have players with higher ELO (and probability of victory is higher) you get a boost to your ELO, if you have players with lower ELO (and probability of victory is lower) you get a drop of your ELO.
This is totally weird.
imgur.com/Nj1pldz
The bug is that some ELO calculations occur in the absence of any competition between players. It occurs mainly in 2 typical cases :
1) games ending normally, but for games with only one winner, all other players being losers. If the losers cannot be ranked, due to lack of score, you cannot pretend there were competitions between losers, and that these players finished in a tie. Only ELO calculations between the winner and each loser are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
2) games interrupted due to the departure of a player. It is in a way the opposite of the previous situation: the result is one loser, all other players are winners, and winners are not ranked, following the rules of this website. As in the previous case, only ELO calculations between the loser and each winner are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
Hello everyone,
We finally found the good way to implement this.
It concerns only games where the winners win as a team, and losers lose as a team. These games are easy to spot: they are the one where the "1st / 2nd / 3rd" are replaced by "Winners / Losers" in the table results. Examples: Werewolves, Not alone, Coup city state.
For these games, you cannot win ELO if you are a "loser", and you cannot lose ELO if you are a "winner".
Thanks for suggesting this.
There is no reason I (RicardoRix) should gain ELO:
and also Savilov shouldn't be losing ELO to anyone other than Jai:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=60814597
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- Sekiranya anda ada screenshot bug ini (amalan yang baik), anda boleh gunakan Imgur.com untuk muatnaik dan copy/paste pautan itu di sini.